Comments on: Dalian’s clean, but is it really open? http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/ Dispatches from somewhere far away Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:39:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: lakson http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-376 lakson Mon, 04 Jun 2007 01:57:10 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-376 The picture,where is it? The picture,where is it?

]]> By: kelly http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-325 kelly Fri, 18 May 2007 10:05:56 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-325 大连很干净啊～但是我觉得随地吐痰真的很让人难以忍受｀我在学校里找不到吃东西的地方．．．快两年了也不能习惯，从早到晚翻胃｀｀ 如果大连人能代表大部分的北方人，那我真要说，还是我们南方好～可能有些偏激，嘿嘿．．．我家在的是一个小地方，但是也没有人随地吐痰（当然也不是一味宣扬环保好，还是没有大连街道干净～），我很想知道他们是从小就习惯了么｀｀ 大连很干净啊～但是我觉得随地吐痰真的很让人难以忍受｀我在学校里找不到吃东西的地方．．．快两年了也不能习惯，从早到晚翻胃｀｀
如果大连人能代表大部分的北方人，那我真要说，还是我们南方好～可能有些偏激，嘿嘿．．．我家在的是一个小地方，但是也没有人随地吐痰（当然也不是一味宣扬环保好，还是没有大连街道干净～），我很想知道他们是从小就习惯了么｀｀

]]> By: China Law Blog http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-315 China Law Blog Wed, 16 May 2007 18:00:34 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-315 Kim -- That curry restaurant would probably be best served by retaining local Chinese counsel. Kim –

That curry restaurant would probably be best served by retaining local Chinese counsel.

]]> By: Kim http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-309 Kim Mon, 14 May 2007 17:07:36 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-309 @ Chris Thanks for trying anyway! It'shard to get beyond the fuzz,you'd need at least an hour long informal chat about it and you can't do that in lessons obviously. @China Law Blog Well, I wonder if you could help out a Japanese owned Indian curry restaurant called Abashi Curry who opened up recently and have been shut down twice for ridiculous and obviously trumped up reasons? I don't know who they pissed off or how, but everyone agrees it's not fair. If you manage to help them I will thank you eternally because I love curry and naan and because it's 5 minutes walk from my flat! @ Chris Thanks for trying anyway! It’shard to get beyond the fuzz,you’d need at least an hour long informal chat about it and you can’t do that in lessons obviously.

@China Law Blog Well, I wonder if you could help out a Japanese owned Indian curry restaurant called Abashi Curry who opened up recently and have been shut down twice for ridiculous and obviously trumped up reasons? I don’t know who they pissed off or how, but everyone agrees it’s not fair. If you manage to help them I will thank you eternally because I love curry and naan and because it’s 5 minutes walk from my flat!

]]> By: China Law Blog http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-308 China Law Blog Mon, 14 May 2007 11:56:00 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-308 Based on just a few visits to Dalian and on working on a few matters with lawyers there, I do get the sense that the city is more open to Japanese businesses than elsewhere in China. The lawyers in Dalian speak approvingly/proudly of Japanese businesses liking their city, while the lawyers in other Chinese cities seem proud to reject Japanese business. Dalian definitely has more than its share of striking women. Based on just a few visits to Dalian and on working on a few matters with lawyers there, I do get the sense that the city is more open to Japanese businesses than elsewhere in China. The lawyers in Dalian speak approvingly/proudly of Japanese businesses liking their city, while the lawyers in other Chinese cities seem proud to reject Japanese business. Dalian definitely has more than its share of striking women.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-306 Chris Sun, 13 May 2007 17:31:20 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-306 Chris Waugh, Like I said, Dalian has treated me well, for the most part. Actually, one way I usually spot out of towners is by their utter shock at seeing foreigners about. Most Dalianren are used to laowai. Kim, I tried to get more detail on the Japan claim but all that came out was fuzz, the usual bit about history, and a few more assertions of distaste. Ray, I haven't spent enough time in Beijing to make a proper comparison, and I have never been to Shanghai, I'm sorry to say. Shanghai's reputation for producing first-rate snobs does precede it far and wide, though. Chris Waugh,
Like I said, Dalian has treated me well, for the most part. Actually, one way I usually spot out of towners is by their utter shock at seeing foreigners about. Most Dalianren are used to laowai.

Kim,
I tried to get more detail on the Japan claim but all that came out was fuzz, the usual bit about history, and a few more assertions of distaste.

Ray,
I haven’t spent enough time in Beijing to make a proper comparison, and I have never been to Shanghai, I’m sorry to say. Shanghai’s reputation for producing first-rate snobs does precede it far and wide, though.

]]> By: Ray http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-305 Ray Sun, 13 May 2007 05:16:53 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-305 I am working in Beijing,but not from around here,Athough I've just lived here for less than half an year,I think beijingnese are a little bit more friendly than shanghainese.all we know is that shanghai is the most modernest city of chinese,it should be the economic center of china,maybe it's because of that,the shanghainese are always having more superiority complex,and look down upon the newcomers so that the ppl from other cities can't never feel like home .I never been to Dalian,but I have been to many other cities on the south of China,I prefer Hangzhou,it's a beautiful city,and local ppl are friendly with newcomers,the girls are always very hot,maybe not as tall as Dalian girls,I bet their skins must be more healthy,nicer and whiter than Dalian girls'.Chinese perverb says “自古江南出美女”,I don't know the standard translation,if I translate it literally,it could be"Jiang Nan produces cuties from of old"I quite think the most beauties are from the south of China. I am working in Beijing,but not from around here,Athough I’ve just lived here for less than half an year,I think beijingnese are a little bit more friendly than shanghainese.all we know is that shanghai is the most modernest city of chinese,it should be the economic center of china,maybe it’s because of that,the shanghainese are always having more superiority complex,and look down upon the newcomers so that the ppl from other cities can’t never feel like home .I never been to Dalian,but I have been to many other cities on the south of China,I prefer Hangzhou,it’s a beautiful city,and local ppl are friendly with newcomers,the girls are always very hot,maybe not as tall as Dalian girls,I bet their skins must be more healthy,nicer and whiter than Dalian girls’.Chinese perverb says “自古江南出美女”,I don’t know the standard translation,if I translate it literally,it could be”Jiang Nan produces cuties from of old”I quite think the most beauties are from the south of China.

]]> By: Kim http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-297 Kim Sat, 12 May 2007 09:54:50 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-297 By "too friendly with the Japanese" they might mean that there are a lot of Japanese clubs in Dalian where Japanese gentlemen can go and "mingle" with Chinese ladies. I don't know. Otherwise, I can't imagine what they are talking about. Is it "friendly" to allow Japanese businesses to open up here? Is it because they don't march thru the streets denouncing Japan? Maybe you could ask those students/outsiders of yours to expand on what they mean. I find it an interesting topic anyway! By “too friendly with the Japanese” they might mean that there are a lot of Japanese clubs in Dalian where Japanese gentlemen can go and “mingle” with Chinese ladies. I don’t know. Otherwise, I can’t imagine what they are talking about. Is it “friendly” to allow Japanese businesses to open up here? Is it because they don’t march thru the streets denouncing Japan? Maybe you could ask those students/outsiders of yours to expand on what they mean. I find it an interesting topic anyway!

]]> By: chriswaugh_bj http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-296 chriswaugh_bj Sat, 12 May 2007 08:48:27 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-296 You make Dalian sound like every other city in China. Actually, my wife and I were in Dalian last May Day and we were very impressed with the local environment and people. Of course, we were only there for a week, but that short time and our limited dealings with the locals left us with a very good impression of the city and its people. You make Dalian sound like every other city in China.

Actually, my wife and I were in Dalian last May Day and we were very impressed with the local environment and people. Of course, we were only there for a week, but that short time and our limited dealings with the locals left us with a very good impression of the city and its people.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-294 Chris Sat, 12 May 2007 04:58:51 +0000 http://www.chrisamico.com/2007/05/12/dalians-clean-but-is-it-really-open/#comment-294 Rick, The issue of short history did come up a bit, but most of the comments I heard were about people. Even a friend from Shanghai said Dalian people suck. Again, that could be just mutual snobbery. Cici, My students brought up the Japanese; I'm just passing it along. I've certainly heard local people say nasty things about Japan, too. I found it interesting that non-Dalianese thought local people were more "Japan-friendly," and viewed this as a bad thing. Rick,
The issue of short history did come up a bit, but most of the comments I heard were about people. Even a friend from Shanghai said Dalian people suck. Again, that could be just mutual snobbery.

Cici,
My students brought up the Japanese; I’m just passing it along. I’ve certainly heard local people say nasty things about Japan, too. I found it interesting that non-Dalianese thought local people were more “Japan-friendly,” and viewed this as a bad thing.

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