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		<title>By: cc</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamico.com/2006/12/02/to-kill-those-who-do-not-remember-history/#comment-456</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The political entries in wikpedia are a joke</description>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamico.com/2006/12/02/to-kill-those-who-do-not-remember-history/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick,&lt;br /&gt;I am 100% with your points. You are right, and there's something wrong with China.&lt;br /&gt;However, for the people living in a foreign country, I would like to put in my two cents. Be an onlooker: watch your host country quietly and do not get emotional to it. Otherwise, be a participant: try to change what should change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,<br />I am 100% with your points. You are right, and there&#8217;s something wrong with China.<br />However, for the people living in a foreign country, I would like to put in my two cents. Be an onlooker: watch your host country quietly and do not get emotional to it. Otherwise, be a participant: try to change what should change.</p>
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		<title>By: èŠ±å´—é½‹ä¹‹æ„šå…¬</title>
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		<dc:creator>èŠ±å´—é½‹ä¹‹æ„šå…¬</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the kind of self-censorship, as seen in Wikipedia, has a lot to do with national pride as well.  There's still not the tradition of self-criticism (ironically, enough) of the historical narrative in China.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's such a huge part of American graduate history programs: the rewriting of the narrative in ways ever more critical of past events. And this angers many people in the US as much as in China. (Witness the recent Florida bill to mandate the teaching of history "without interpretation.")  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People want to believe that they come from a noble past and the historical record doesn't always shake out that way.  Self-censorship and selective memory become the key means to preserve that noble past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the kind of self-censorship, as seen in Wikipedia, has a lot to do with national pride as well.  There&#8217;s still not the tradition of self-criticism (ironically, enough) of the historical narrative in China.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a huge part of American graduate history programs: the rewriting of the narrative in ways ever more critical of past events. And this angers many people in the US as much as in China. (Witness the recent Florida bill to mandate the teaching of history &#8220;without interpretation.&#8221;)  </p>
<p>People want to believe that they come from a noble past and the historical record doesn&#8217;t always shake out that way.  Self-censorship and selective memory become the key means to preserve that noble past.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisamico.com/2006/12/02/to-kill-those-who-do-not-remember-history/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that IHT article says as much about the weaknesses of Wikipedia or the failures of democratic/participatory systems as it does about Chinese revisionism. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the other China bloggers (can't remember who) recently dusted off this essay by &lt;a href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html"&gt; Jaron Lanier from Edge called "Digital Maoism"&lt;/a&gt; that was pretty interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also have problems with the tone of the article. Why is the failure to mention the Malay connection from 4,000 years ago so significant to the writer? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm with you on the hate the Japanese thing, though. Most of my students openly express their hatred. I've seen some who refuse to trashtalk Japan get ridiculed by the other students. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember when Sikh cabbies had to organize to protect themselves post 9-11-2001 because people saw the turbans. You'd think it would require quite an information machine to keep that kind of hatred alive for 60 years, like it has been stoked in China. But after a while, it probably just gets absorbed into the general consciousness, like the fact that whites in the southern U.S. are stupid racists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that IHT article says as much about the weaknesses of Wikipedia or the failures of democratic/participatory systems as it does about Chinese revisionism. </p>
<p>One of the other China bloggers (can&#8217;t remember who) recently dusted off this essay by <a href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html"> Jaron Lanier from Edge called &#8220;Digital Maoism&#8221;</a> that was pretty interesting.</p>
<p>I also have problems with the tone of the article. Why is the failure to mention the Malay connection from 4,000 years ago so significant to the writer? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on the hate the Japanese thing, though. Most of my students openly express their hatred. I&#8217;ve seen some who refuse to trashtalk Japan get ridiculed by the other students. </p>
<p>I remember when Sikh cabbies had to organize to protect themselves post 9-11-2001 because people saw the turbans. You&#8217;d think it would require quite an information machine to keep that kind of hatred alive for 60 years, like it has been stoked in China. But after a while, it probably just gets absorbed into the general consciousness, like the fact that whites in the southern U.S. are stupid racists.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi G.&lt;br /&gt;I don't object if people say &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; Japanese people are bad.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I do object when I hear people say stuff like:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All japanese people are bad, or&lt;br /&gt;all foreigners are rich, or&lt;br /&gt;all black people play basketball well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stereotyping happens all over the world.  But for some reason or another, I see it a lot here.  I'm sure after some more years of development it will be much better.  Maybe if CCTV starts including some educational programs like Sesame Street or something, that teach kids and parents civilized ideas, instead of teaching them çˆ±å›½ä¸»ä¹‰æ•™è‚² like this:  &lt;a&gt;http://www.maskofchina.com/hk/2006/07/in-china-its-never-too-early-to-hate.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi G.<br />I don&#8217;t object if people say <i>some</i> Japanese people are bad.  </p>
<p>But I do object when I hear people say stuff like:</p>
<p>All japanese people are bad, or<br />all foreigners are rich, or<br />all black people play basketball well.</p>
<p>Stereotyping happens all over the world.  But for some reason or another, I see it a lot here.  I&#8217;m sure after some more years of development it will be much better.  Maybe if CCTV starts including some educational programs like Sesame Street or something, that teach kids and parents civilized ideas, instead of teaching them çˆ±å›½ä¸»ä¹‰æ•™è‚² like this:  <a>http://www.maskofchina.com/hk/2006/07/in-china-its-never-too-early-to-hate.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey chris, i really appreciate ur writing, have fun in dalian!</description>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick,&lt;br /&gt;I believe many things in our minds have never been examined.We all are likely to toss something without thinking,and we all can be ignorant sometimes. These are common Human things, no matter who we are and where we from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me, that is why I am open to harsh comments, since I know I might be wrong with my previous ideas. And that is where the communications kick in. Ask them why they think Japaneses people are bad. Tell them why you do not think so. Humble communications benefit us all: we all can  learn from each other,we can see the things we can't see by ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,<br />I believe many things in our minds have never been examined.We all are likely to toss something without thinking,and we all can be ignorant sometimes. These are common Human things, no matter who we are and where we from.</p>
<p>For me, that is why I am open to harsh comments, since I know I might be wrong with my previous ideas. And that is where the communications kick in. Ask them why they think Japaneses people are bad. Tell them why you do not think so. Humble communications benefit us all: we all can  learn from each other,we can see the things we can&#8217;t see by ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had a taxi driver the other day, who asked me where my girlfriend was from.  When I replied "Japan," he didn't hesitate to say "Japanese people are bad."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I calmly say, "You can say the &lt;i&gt;japanese government&lt;/i&gt; are bad, but you can't say all Japanese people are bad." To which he replies "Ha ha... Japanese people are bad."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The older ones are likley not going to change their thinking.  But it's depressing when the young people repeat the same ignorance.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If they do their research, and back it up with fact, fine.  But I find that many just toss without thinking, just because it's what everyone else says. The BBSs are full of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ask them about '89 or the Chinese invasion of Vietnam, and then talk about forgetting history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most foreigners who come to China have a better idea of Chinese history than the average Chinese person does, I think.  And that's sad, considering how much some Chinese bash Japan for doing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.</p>
<p>I had a taxi driver the other day, who asked me where my girlfriend was from.  When I replied &#8220;Japan,&#8221; he didn&#8217;t hesitate to say &#8220;Japanese people are bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>I calmly say, &#8220;You can say the <i>japanese government</i> are bad, but you can&#8217;t say all Japanese people are bad.&#8221; To which he replies &#8220;Ha ha&#8230; Japanese people are bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>The older ones are likley not going to change their thinking.  But it&#8217;s depressing when the young people repeat the same ignorance.  </p>
<p>If they do their research, and back it up with fact, fine.  But I find that many just toss without thinking, just because it&#8217;s what everyone else says. The BBSs are full of it.</p>
<p>Ask them about &#8216;89 or the Chinese invasion of Vietnam, and then talk about forgetting history.</p>
<p>Most foreigners who come to China have a better idea of Chinese history than the average Chinese person does, I think.  And that&#8217;s sad, considering how much some Chinese bash Japan for doing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: G.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice observation. You should tell your students why you don't think that was correct.&lt;br /&gt;Of course, you should clarify your own ideas first,and then convince your readers and your students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice observation. You should tell your students why you don&#8217;t think that was correct.<br />Of course, you should clarify your own ideas first,and then convince your readers and your students.</p>
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